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		<title>“Beer here!”: The Poster and the Public Notice in Rural Rwanda</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kelli</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The journey along Rwanda&#8217;s winding mountain roads is a bustling scene rural life, farm work, and commerce dotted with sparse, intermittent signage. In the most densely populated nation in Africa, advertising is thin. There are no shop signs or billboards. The looping eucalyptus and mud brick facades sporadically feature a lone 16&#8243; x 20&#8243; splash [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The journey along Rwanda&#8217;s winding mountain roads is a bustling scene rural life, farm work, and commerce dotted with sparse, intermittent signage. In the most densely populated nation in Africa, advertising is thin. There are no shop signs or billboards. The looping eucalyptus and mud brick facades sporadically feature a lone 16&#8243; x 20&#8243; splash of color —very casually placed—which bears the dual message of &#8220;this is a shop&#8221; and/since &#8220;X is available for sale here.&#8221;</p>

<div id="attachment_1821" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 570px"><a href="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/primus.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1821  " src="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/primus.jpg" alt="" width="560" height="356" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A beer poster on a shop outside of Kigali</p></div>

<p>The most prevalent of these signs is the blue-hued Primus beer postings, which frequent the storefronts — usually tacked onto the side, next to the door. Their informal treatment makes their display feel compulsory — approximating how a NYC restaurant might treat a department of health certificate. In the western city, the arrangement of ads is much more careful…and even hierarchical (it wouldn’t be amiss to say that they are arranged by money more than they are arranged by people; i.e. the most visible positioning = the most expensive slot.)  In this context, dispassion in arrangement is reserved for the strictly obligatory: the no smoking sign, the choking safety poster, the restroom sign.  Refreshingly, all signs seem to get the same treatment in Rwanda.</p>

<p>The Primus beer signs in Rwanda are a strange player here.  The sole vestige of western ad aesthetics complete with logotype, spot colors, copyright notice (all alien in this agrarian culture) — they are also utilitarian objects, dutifully pointing to the beer. “The beer is HERE!”  This indexical function is immediately at odds with the western advertising&#8217;s tendency to disembody the brand from the object.  Oftentimes, a NYC billboard will advertise a product that is practically unattainable in terms of the reasonable logistic measures. (Those showy 2003 Target billboards come to mind: the company consumed Times Square with ads before a store was open anywhere near Manhattan…much to popular annoyance.)  The Primus ads sit [logically] at the nexus of consumer and beer, brand and product.</p>

<p>How does such a practical arrangement of signage become the exception rather than the rule?  Why do these beer signs seem so weird??  For a better answer than can be provided here, I recommend looking at Susan Sontag’s essay, <em>Posters: Advertisement, Art, Political Artifact, Commodity</em>. In this 1970 essay, Sontag examines the assorted postings that cover the western city — distinguishing between the advertisement poster and the public notice.  While “posters” historically arose out of the tradition of the public notice, she considers them notably distinct in &#8220;presupposing the modern concept of the public &#8211; in which members of society are defined as spectators or consumers.&#8221;  Posters actively compete for the consumer: &#8220;the values of the poster are first those of &#8216;appeal&#8217;, and only second of information&#8221; while public notices &#8220;inform&#8221; &#8211; ostensibly conveying the straight facts on good authority.  The beer posters share qualities of each communication method- straddling Sontag’s definitions (in utilitarian defiance of western ad usage.) Although meant to stimulate commerce (or at least enable it) Rwandan shopkeeps&#8217; deadpan use of the posters to point to the beer makes them function like an informative public notice — the tone of the communication is more akin to signage than appeal. The proximity of the notice to the goods bridges the brand to a physical product. It is a public notice… one that happens to lack the expected civic dimension and instead points to beer.</p>

<p>We drive for miles through farm villages without any signage at all &#8211; not even beer posters.  At set intervals, a different type of signage emerges as a repeating motif. Sober reminders of the 1994 genocide appear on the side of the road &#8211; rendered in uniform block-lettered hand-painted type on standard white posts.  Each sign shows a pair of hands in repose with text that bears the general message of &#8220;Genocide: Never let it happen again” (as roughly translated by our driver.)  Here is the proper, traditional public notice: the sign with a civic message to a country which has literally hit the reset button on what “civic” engagement means.</p>

<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/genocide_sign.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1822 aligncenter" src="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/genocide_sign.jpg" alt="" width="560" height="372" /></a></p>

<p>To say that Rwandans had no other choice is an understatement — the country’s lone museum, the Genocide Museum, chronicles the ruin of a nation in horrifying detail.  However, to say that they’ve had no choice also undermines the immense philosophical and political accomplishments of the people.  It is impressive — even to the casual observer.  One instantly picks up on a sense of “mass cooperation”: drivers yield to cars and pedestrians, strangers engage in polite conversation, Kigali residents excitedly discuss the city’s planned projects as if they were their own.   Our driver enthusiastically chats with us about education reform, family planning initiatives, rural housing planning, urban street planning, and the political empowerment of women.  There is virtually no crime to speak of.  Everyone — right up to the nation’s president— is required to sweep their street once a month.  They have more women in their Parliament than Sweden. Fifteen years after hitting “reset”, Rwanda is a nation of people wholly dedicated to civic enrichment — they are busy designing their future through policy.</p>

<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/genocide_sign2.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1823 aligncenter" src="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/genocide_sign2.jpg" alt="" width="560" height="428" /></a></p>

<p>The genocide street signs stand as a reminder of this sentiment — the genocide was a beginning for unity, rather than an end.  Rather than serving as an authoritative mandate from an aloof government, its interpretation emanates from the people.  It is the people’s sign, a symbol of unity.  This is a public-notice-as-monument — reminding Rwanda’s public of their accomplishments and setting the tone for the new generation. The sign’s deadpan format belies the over-arching convictions of a nation singularly fixated on the future.</p>

<div id="attachment_1824" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 570px"><a href="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fortune_ad.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1824 " src="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fortune_ad.jpg" alt="" width="560" height="386" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A more western ad campaign inside the capital city of Kigali…for cooking oil</p></div>


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		<title>Be-twix and ad and a hard case</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mandiberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the question is&#8230; is this a twix advertisement? or was it just that cool to paint a Twix logo on the back of your white portable radio in the heyday of 80&#8242;s graffiti-cool? Picture via Mariasa Olson&#8217;s flickr set IMG_FAN Related posts:We got graffiti! NYT: City Room Blog &#8211; Ad or Art? Chanel’s 2.55 [...]


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<p>So the question is&#8230; is this a twix advertisement?  or was it just that cool to paint a Twix logo on the back of your white portable radio in the heyday of 80&#8242;s graffiti-cool?</p>

<p>Picture via <a href="http://marisaolson.com/">Mariasa Olson&#8217;s</a> flickr set <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/marisaolson/sets/1788604/">IMG_FAN</a></p>


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		<title>Olympissed</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Emily Gallagher</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Olympic ad wrap up: We at the AAA can&#8217;t have much of an olympic ad piss party because we were so disgusted by the political and social justice issues surrounding the olympics themselves. We were too busy watching our friends and allies get abused, detained and harassed while most tv viewers drooled over swimmers&#8217; abdominals. [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Olympic ad wrap up: </strong> 
We at the AAA can&#8217;t have much of an olympic ad piss party because we were so disgusted by the political and social justice issues surrounding the olympics themselves.  We were too busy watching our friends and allies get <a href="http://beijing6.org/">abused, detained</a> and <a href="http://www.nysun.com/new-york/new-yorkers-claim-mistreatment-at-hands-of-chinese/84590/">harassed</a> while most tv viewers drooled over swimmers&#8217; abdominals.</p>

<p><img src="http://antiadvertisingagency.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/michaelphelpson1-220x300.jpg" alt="oooh, abs! buy my stuff now!" title="michaelphelpson1" width="220" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-902 alignleft" />Luckily, I watched the Olympics twice and easily discovered a festering sore&#8211; Nike&#8217;s campaign, who had the clever idea to protect their investments by utilizing the DRAMA and SUFFERING of losing athletes.   Because really, do we identify more with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Joyner-Kersee">Jackie Joyner Kersee</a>, or <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/trackandfield/news/story?id=3151367">Marion Jones</a>? Where was Nike when I was giving mock interviews in rollerblades in my garage at age 11? I definitely sucked at sports&#8211; the ultimate underdog! I would have been perfect!</p>

<p>Apparently the campaign wasn&#8217;t necessarily meant to be like this.  It was a strategy to save face in case any of their endorsed athletes disappointed them.  Choosing athletes as product pushers is a risky move&#8230; remember reebok&#8217;s <a href="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJkfE1M9wA">&#8220;Dan and Dave&#8221;</a> campaign, where, oops! Dan didn&#8217;t qualify for the olympics five weeks before the event. Ouch.</p>

<p>But capitalizing off of anyone&#8217;s humiliation or embarassment is bound to bite you in the ass.  Nike, in the ad campaign, turned out to be the biggest loser&#8211; because they made some really uncute decisions when an anonymous blogger started a rumor:</p>

<p>Liu Xiang, the Chinese track and fielder who did not compete &#8220;because of an injury,&#8221; was pushed out because Nike didn&#8217;t want him to lose, which they felt was inevitable.<br />
Nike suspiciously overreacted, making threats to hunt down the blogger like Osama Bin Laden.   Who did they ask to help them?  The Chinese Government!</p>

<p>Charlie Brooks, the representative for Nike, assured us that this wasn&#8217;t about freedom of speech, but protecting brand image.  Oh, okay Charlie!  I won&#8217;t read into the situation.  A manhunt over an internet rumor in an intensely loving and fair country like China is just about branding! That&#8217;s fine, then.  I thought, for a moment, it might be about valuing money and objects over human beings&#8230; which is also why I thought you&#8217;d exploit a suffering and embarassed athlete&#8217;s misfortune to hock sportswear.   And now, Charlie Brooks won&#8217;t talk about it anymore.</p>

<p>I think Marina Hyde from the <em>Guardian</em> says it best in her <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/aug/22/olympics2008.olympicsathletics">column on the foible</a>:</p>

<blockquote>Don&#8217;t Brooks&#8217; employers find that at odds with the kind of inspirational rhetoric that drives their adverts, where mavericks speak truth to power, and the individual is fetishised? No comment. Does Nike have a position on democracy? No comment. Because it feels like just the kind of abstract noun Nike would be drawn to in the cause of selling stuff. No comment.

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<p>What will happen next?  Advertising screw-ups are almost as breathtaking as the Olympics themselves.  Just think of all the drama Aeschylus missed out on, living in the BA (Before Advertising) period!</p>


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		<title>Is the Ad Porn more Ad Creep?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mandiberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The interwebs are abuzz with tittering about the video of a pretty young blond woman who sensually sexually licks nearly every phallic object in the hotel room of a chain hotel. You tube has gone so far as to put a warning that the content is &#8220;inapropriate for some users&#8221; and requires you to sign [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interwebs are abuzz with tittering about <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-m99wIqJnc">the video of a pretty young blond woman who <del datetime="00">sensually</del> sexually licks nearly every phallic object in the hotel room of a chain hotel</a>.  You tube has gone so far as to put a warning that the content is &#8220;inapropriate for some users&#8221; and requires you to sign in to verify your age.  (Hence it seems I can&#8217;t embed he video. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-m99wIqJnc">Just go to the link and watch it</a>.)</p>

<p>While I would really prefer to think that there is someone out there with a fetish for licking recently cleaned objects in hotel rooms, and wants to share that with the rest of the world, all signs point towards a marketing stunt.  There are several clear logo shots in the opening sequence.  The clip is silent save when the woman says &#8220;very clean&#8221; after a long sensual lick of the toilet bowl.  She then shows an open hand to the camera with the url &#8220;exstay.com&#8221; on it.</p>

<p>Exstay.com redirects to ExtendedStay.com.  It seems that Extended Stay has owned Exstay.com <em><a href="http://whois.domaintools.com/exstay.com">since 1996!</a></em>.  There are some reports that for a moment exstay had its own content, but I can&#8217;t verify that.</p>

<p>There are going to be Tipper Gores who are going to get all pissy because they are using sex to sell.  I guess I&#8217;m used to ads using sex to sell.  I&#8217;m not used to ads pretending to just be straight up amateur fetish porn, only to reveal that they in fact were viral marketing.  I can handle the sex.  I don&#8217;t like being tricked.</p>

<p>And the weird thing is that I can&#8217;t get the brand name and logo out of my brain now.  I have forgotten most of the licking scenes, but I keep thinking about the hotel name.  I hate it when they win.  I hate it when they win.</p>


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		<title>World&#8217;s Worst Person Decides To Go Into Marketing</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mandiberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Louis Deenan is the World&#8217;s Worst Person. He is going into marketing. He says, &#8220;I think it&#8217;s the career path that will best utilize my networking skills and my ability to think outside the box,&#8221; said Deenan, whose smug, gloating tone and shit-eating smile just make you want to punch his goddamn teeth in. &#8220;So [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louis Deenan is the World&#8217;s Worst Person.  <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/worlds_worst_person_decide_0">He is going into marketing</a>.  He says,</p>

<blockquote>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s the career path that will best utilize my networking skills and my ability to think outside the box,&#8221; said Deenan, whose smug, gloating tone and shit-eating smile just make you want to punch his goddamn teeth in. &#8220;So I&#8217;m definitely thinking marketing. Either that, or PR.&#8221;</blockquote>

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		<title>Secret Dialogue: The Rob Walker Interview</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Elizabeth Moore</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob Walker’s upcoming book, Buying In: The Secret Dialogue Between What We Buy and Who We Are, is a compelling narrative of consumer culture, drawn occasionally from his regular notes from the field for the New York Times Magazine. Multinationals don’t determine brand meaning, he argues. People do. Yet people don’t tend to leverage that [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob Walker’s upcoming book, <em><a href="http://www.murketing.com/journal/?page_id=1061">Buying In: The Secret Dialogue Between What We Buy and Who We Are</a></em>, is a compelling narrative of consumer culture, drawn occasionally from his regular notes from the field for the <em><a href="http://www.murketing.com/journal/?cat=2">New York Times Magazine</a></em>.</p>

<p>Multinationals don’t determine brand meaning, he argues. People do. Yet people don’t tend to leverage that power toward resolving economic or social justice conflicts. In Walker’s world, they often use it to leverage for more personalized consumption options. In Walker’s world, in fact, people brand themselves.</p>

<p>It reminds me of Susan Sontag’s essay “The Image World” from <em>On Photography</em>. In it, Sontag describes what now seems like a quaint and charming albeit totally out-of-date scenario: residents of non-industrialized countries shy away from being photographed, “divining it to be some kind of trespass, an act of disrespect, a sublimating looting of the personality or the culture.” Whereas, she goes on, “people in industrialized countries seek to have their photographs taken—feel that they are images, and are made real by photographs.”</p>

<p>If we replace “photography” with “branding,”—or, you know, “creating invested relationships with branded products”—we’ve got a decent approximation of the state of the world. At least, the state of the world Walker describes.</p>

<p>Rob Walker’s an incredibly smart and invested journalist, and I’m honored to have the chance to talk to him about our consumer culture. The interview that follows touches on a lot of issues. (I’d have liked to have touched on even more, but we’ve agreed to do at least one more discussion—particularly on gender and branding, and graffiti and self-publishing—in the future.) Most important to this discussion, however, is the book. <em>Buying In</em> poses an essential question about how we position ourselves in consumer culture, and that question is: what makes you feel real? And knowing you have the power to change it, will you make use of it?<span id="more-549"></span></p>

<p><strong>As a staunch anti-consumerist activist who won&#8217;t even buy a copy of your book—sorry! Even though it&#8217;s really good—because I don&#8217;t give money to corporate publishing houses, I suspect that I may not be your primary audience. Am I wrong? If not, who is? What are you trying to tell them?</strong></p>

<p>You&#8217;re certainly correct that I did not set out to write a book for a primary audience of people who would categorically refuse to buy it.</p>

<p>In general, as far as I can tell, the readers of my column etc. include people like you, or somewhat like you; professional marketers (defined broadly); designers and design fans; academics with an interest in the previously noted fields as well as &#8220;popular culture&#8221; (defined broadly) and business in general; students in that same range of disciplines; indie-preneur types, especially in the DIY/craft realm; and a large but hard-to-pin down group of people who seem to get some enjoyment and use out of thinking about consumer culture and consumer behavior (good for them!)</p>

<p>And this was my goal: To reach and engage multiple audiences. Of course you can&#8217;t please everybody all the time, and this approach means somebody is always thinking I&#8217;ve gone too far in this direction or that one. I&#8217;m okay with that.</p>

<p>Anyway, so that&#8217;s one way of thinking about the intended audience for the book, which is that it isn&#8217;t one big and easy-to-pin-down segment that a marketer might name (soccer moms, Nascar dads, and all that), but rather a number of audiences reading for different reasons.</p>

<p>Possibly the core divide is marketers vs. consumers. I&#8217;m not particularly interested in thinking about it that way—there&#8217;s a reason the word &#8220;dialogue&#8221; is in the book&#8217; s subtitle—but I&#8217;ll just say, yes, I&#8217;m interested in professional marketers reading the book, because I think I have something to say that they ought to be interested in that (I don&#8217;t think) anyone else is saying to them. A good deal of what I have to say is critical of the way commercial persuasion is practiced. On the other hand, I&#8217;m not out to demonize these people, because if I do that then there is absolutely no chance they&#8217;ll be open to what I&#8217;m saying. If I take them more seriously, as professionals and as humans, then there is, at least, some chance that they&#8217;ll take me seriously, too.</p>

<p>That said, of course I&#8217;m much more interested in the broader category of, you know, people who buy stuff. A/K/A/: The Rest Of Us. Because it’s my sincere hope that at the end of the book, people will approach buying things in a different way than they did at the start of the book.</p>

<p><strong>So your book posits—correct me if i&#8217;m wrong—that consumers have always held greater power in the marketplace to grant meaning to mass-produced cultural symbols than those producers have acknowledged. To what do you attribute this difference in perceived vs. actual power? And to what use do you feel can such power be put?</strong></p>

<p>Much of what&#8217;s written about consumer culture or consumer behavior comes at those topics from the point of view of marketers talking to other marketers (7 rules for selling more Whatever to today&#8217;s consumer, etc.) or from the point of view of straight-out criticism (marketers are horrible manipulators). So in both cases, the paradigm has to be: Marketers have all the power.</p>

<p>(Or marketers <em>used to</em> have all the power, until really, really recently—that&#8217;s been said over and over again for like 100 years, by marketing professionals in particular. They&#8217;re constantly revealing that customer is now king, etc. This is the other factor, I think: It&#8217;s partly the tendency to be ahistorical, and it&#8217;s partly the idea that We in the Here and Now are way smarter than all those silly naive people of the past; that&#8217;s just a comforting, flattering thought. Of course we want to think of ourselves as the savviest, cleverest people in the history of the world. And if that means suggesting that in the Old Days people took orders from their TV set, then okay. But I digress.)</p>

<p>My point is: What is consumer power? Is it getting a free replacement product because you vented on a blog? Is the &#8220;opportunity&#8221; to have a &#8220;conversation&#8221; with Starbucks about what new flavors they should introduce? Is it designing your very own Nike shoe?</p>

<p>Or is it the various accomplishments of past movements, ranging from food labeling to safety belts to divestment from South Africa?</p>

<p>Those questions can be answered in a variety of ways. It&#8217;s basically up to consumers to decide: What&#8217;s important? If &#8220;we&#8221; have the power, then maybe it&#8217;s worth thinking whether &#8220;we&#8221; want to use it for something more significant than ragging on Comcast.</p>

<p><strong>Do you see or have you seen any negative side to discussing branding as a new form of cultural expression? Any positive side?</strong></p>

<p>To me this is like asking whether there are positive or negative sides to discussing whether the sun is going to come up tomorrow. It&#8217;s a fact: branding is a form a cultural expression. It&#8217;s part of culture. Not just pop culture—culture. That being the case: What now?</p>

<p><strong>What is your &#8220;Converse&#8221; story? And how does it figure into your interest in writing about marketing?</strong></p>

<p>My Converse story is that when I was about 15 I bought a pair of baby-blue Chucks at a mall in Houston, Texas, probably under certain peer influences, and from that moment, Chucks became part of my &#8220;acceptable&#8221; repertoire of products, without me ever really thinking about it. In fact I never truly thought about it until something like 20 years later, when I read/heard that Nike was buying Converse.</p>

<p>As a consumer, I would never, ever, ever wear a Nike product. So now: Chucks were a Nike product. What&#8217;s interesting to me about this isn&#8217;t the why-no-Nike or why-so-into-Converse, but my realization that, although I positioned myself as a savvy and disinterested observer American consumer/marketing culture, the fact of the matter was I was having a personal crisis over a brand. So I could pretend brands did not matter to me, but here I was facing the reality that I didn&#8217;t know whether I could ever buy Chucks again. (As it turns out, I have not.)</p>

<p>But the larger point of the story is that it forced me to realize that I was not &#8220;immune&#8221; to brand meaning. Which was an important thing for me to realize as I wrote this book.</p>

<p><strong>We&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.murketing.com/journal/?p=867">talked before about the marketing of books about marketing</a>, and I need to raise it again here. The marketing materials mailed with your book list all sorts of great strategies intended to get the word out: corporate cross-promotions, WOMMA, banner advertising on Brandweek.com. I realize that at corporate publishing houses, authors rarely have much say over how the publicity department will handle work, but I wonder what your take on this is, given your acknowledgment that word-of-mouth marketing might be kind of icky, and that consumers perhaps have greater sway over the marketplace than previously acknowledged.</strong></p>

<p>Prior to this, I knew pretty much nothing about how big publishing companies operate , and I still know very little. (My previous book, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=FHiiDuAg0bIC&amp;dq=letters+from+new+orleans+rob+walker&amp;pg=PP1&amp;ots=ZWzksMeCnz&amp;sig=DYgy_o3I8OM2Vs-H_yF0Uw3cNzQ&amp;hl=en&amp;prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26q%3DLetters%2BFrom%2BNew%2BOrleans%2BRob%2BWalker%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=print&amp;ct=title&amp;cad=one-book-with-thumbnail"><em>Letters from New Orleans</em></a>, was published an indie press—so I assume you bought that?) And actually you may know more about the promotion of <em>Buying In </em>than I do—I don&#8217;t know about any corporate cross-promotions, and I&#8217;m not sure I knew about banner advertising on Brandweek.com. The latter would not be terribly surprising, since I&#8217;m sure Random House also sees marketing professionals or people interested in branding as part of the book&#8217;s audience. The former, the cross-promotions, I don&#8217;t know anything about that, so I can&#8217;t comment.</p>

<p>Regarding the Word of Mouth Marketing Association, my understanding is that the book, or maybe galleys, I&#8217;m not sure, is/was given out at their conference, and I believe this is something Random House has done with other books. So far as I know, it hasn&#8217;t been flowed into any word of mouth firm&#8217;s actual system of &#8220;agents&#8221; etc; it&#8217;s been given to word of mouth professionals. And I&#8217;m certainly interested in those professionals reading the book.</p>

<p>But specifics aside, you&#8217;re getting at broader questions. As I&#8217;ve said elsewhere, I do think there&#8217;s a difference between promoting a set of ideas (like those contained in a book), and dreaming up a set of ideas (&#8220;this makes you an individual for xyz reason&#8221;) and using that to promote a shoe or a detergent or whatever. So I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything wrong or hypocritical about book promotion in general.</p>

<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s possible that some of the specific tactics might end up making me look like a hypocrite. So as always I try to think about how Andy Warhol would handle the situation. If somebody asked him: &#8220;So doesn&#8217;t that make you a hypocrite?&#8221; then I&#8217;m pretty sure he would say, &#8220;Yes.&#8221; I&#8217;ll just go with that.</p>

<p><strong>Ha ha. You know, I&#8217;m more of a <a href="http://www.indyworld.com/tof/">Titans of Finance</a> girl. However, I&#8217;m not as interested in your potential hypocrisy—I personally don&#8217;t see it: you&#8217;re a writer, and you&#8217;re doing the writing—as I might be in, say, WOMMA&#8217;s, or Brandweek&#8217;s, or whoever&#8217;s. They&#8217;re the marketers, and maybe they&#8217;re passing along the message: some marketing is kind of icky. I guess this isn&#8217;t a question, so much as a clarification.</strong></p>

<p>I see what you mean. One of the really interesting things to me about commercial persuasion professionals is how much they all profess to dislike various aspects of advertising and marketing. Sometimes I actually think marketers are more critical of (other people&#8217;s) marketing than any other group of people. On the other hand, I can&#8217;t think of a single instance of someone in the business professing to feel that anything they personally were working on as being remotely (to borrow your term) icky. Basically, almost everybody sees a big-picture problem, and nobody will cop to being part of it. So I honestly don&#8217;t know how people in the profession will react to the book on the issues you&#8217;re getting at here. Maybe icky is in the eye of the beholder?</p>

<p><strong>You discuss in the section on crafting about what I find most interesting about the project of branding, which is that it tends to be something to which men are more attracted than women. I don&#8217;t mean brands: from a consumer perspective, brands seem to be a gender-neutral proposition. But branding itself: from creating brands that dominate the marketplace in some way or another, to artists branding themselves or forwarding their own brands, to marketing and advertising brands. You allude in the book to women popping up mainly in the crafting movement, but offer little conjecture as to why. Can you here?</strong></p>

<p>Well there&#8217;s a ton of branding in the (women-dominated) craft movement, and in the related crafty lands that border into &#8220;the arts.&#8221;</p>

<p>But I understand what you&#8217;re getting at. And of course it&#8217;s interesting that the marketing profession has long been dominated by men, whereas &#8220;the consumer&#8221; they envision is very frequently a woman. There&#8217;s kind of an entire separate book to be written about that. I actually thought about gender quite a bit while writing this book, but spent more time trying not to show that than showing it. So to truly answer your question, I would indeed have to resort to conjecture, which I&#8217;m not so big on.</p>

<p><strong>Well, then, have you witnessed anything about the project of branding that seems particularly welcoming to masculinity? Or have you spoken to men who&#8217;ve noted comfort with the form? Or women who&#8217;ve expressed discomfort, or concrete ideas about the reasons for this coincidence at all? And what was it you were thinking about gender while writing this book?</strong></p>

<p>I have no choice, then, but to resort to a certain degree of gender stereotyping. So take this with all the obvious caveats. But maybe it&#8217;s useful to compare branding to graffiti, because there are a lot of similarities. Graffiti has a very macho element, the sort of territory marking, the projection of self into the face of strangers, etc. etc. (&#8220;Your presence on their scene,&#8221; is, I think, the phrase noted macho-ologist Norman Mailer used in his famous essay on graffiti.)</p>

<p>Something about branding can be really similar. It can be about projecting an idea, and getting others to more or less acquiesce to that idea. The underground-y branding tactics that a lot of big companies now use tend to be particularly that way, because it gets invested with a sort of &#8220;street cred&#8221; feeling—like being down with the scene, proving you&#8217;re &#8220;authentic,&#8221; all that stuff. By and large (remember the caveats!) there&#8217;s a lot there that appeals to men, particularly young men. And there are echoes of all that in the rather male-dominated corner of the &#8220;brand underground&#8221; known as the streetwear scene, where the amount of tough-guy posing can border on the hilarious, when you consider that what they&#8217;re talking about, ultimately, is their outfits.</p>

<p>What I meant by &#8220;thinking about gender&#8221; is basically that I was trying to be aware of avoiding gender stereotyping as I wrote. I never wanted to have a moment where I was saying, &#8220;Well men shop this way and women shop that way.&#8221; Not that there aren&#8217;t differences, etc., it&#8217;s just not an area where I have much to contribute, and that isn&#8217;t really the story I wanted to tell.</p>

<p>I guess the main area where it might really come up is, as you suggest, the craft scene. I think it&#8217;s an interesting fact that women more or less dominate that scene, and that fact is part of the story I tell. On the other hand, as I think I say in the book, there&#8217;s still this lingering sense in most coverage of DIY/craft of &#8220;check out the craft babes&#8221; or whatever, that I think really, really misses the significance of the phenomenon. Probably a more clever writer could have found a way to tackle all of this head on, but to me I felt like it was a good time to just tell the story I wanted to tell about why I think that phenomenon matters to everybody; not to women, to everybody.</p>

<p><strong>I read your column regularly and Murketing even more often, and I do believe that of everyone writing about consumerism right now, you offer the most insight. But, you have been and I think rightly can be called to task for occasionally falling on that line between church and state: You write journalistically about products and product trends. How do you define that line in your own work?</strong></p>

<p>I know that sometimes when I write about something, as a result, people buy that something. I&#8217;m not particularly thrilled about it, because it&#8217;s not what I&#8217;m trying to do, but it goes with the territory. To me, the great thing about the column is you can enjoy all the interesting things about brand meaning etc etc without actually spending a dime. (Well, you spent money to buy the paper, maybe, unless you read it online. You know what I mean.) I&#8217;ve certainly never written a column saying, &#8220;What an awesome product, you should buy it!&#8221; And there are a LOT of people writing a LOT of words along those lines, from the very most highfalutin media outlets, to the glossier ones, to the grassrootsy online world: Just a ton of totally mindless, thoughtless, here-is-some-new-hot-shit writing. And you know what? It&#8217;s really, really popular.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m extremely lucky that my editors let me approach my subject matter the way I want to. The number of times I&#8217;ve been asked to write about a specific product or brand is zero. The number of times I&#8217;ve been asked to tone something down is zero. The number of times I&#8217;ve had contact with the advertising side of the Times is zero.  On one occasion in the history of the column I wrote about something that, unbeknownst to me, was also scheduled to be advertised in the issue—and what happened was, they bumped the ad out of the issue. I understand why people like to pick on the <em>Times</em>, but I&#8217;ve written for a lot of publications, and had a lot of experience, and in my view, the <em>Times</em> does better than most, integrity-wise.</p>

<p>So it really does fall to me, as you suggest, to define that line. The line is always: What does my reader want to read about? My reader isn&#8217;t looking for shopping tips, they&#8217;re looking for interesting and surprising stories about why people buy things. So that&#8217;s basically what I&#8217;m thinking about. Whether the &#8220;thing&#8221; in a column is Taser or a limited edition Nike sneaker (as I&#8217;ve said, I don&#8217;t do Nike), or whether it is some other product that I personally might buy—those distinctions are sideshows. I&#8217;m trying to tell them stories I think they&#8217;ll find interesting.</p>

<p><strong>How often do you run across people who are totally disgusted with branding and consumerism? And, in honor of my favorite new thing, <a href="http://www.murketing.com/journal/?cat=3">Anti-Fridays</a>: what role does dissent play in discussions of marketing? And what role do you believe it should play?</strong></p>

<p>Every day. Because everybody is disgusted. On the other hand, not everybody is quite so consistently disgusted—in the sense that what most people feel is a love-hate relationship with material and/or branded culture. The book deals with this in the form of stories of people protesting branded culture by creating new, self-made branded culture.</p>

<p>I would have to refer back to an earlier answer, above, on the role of dissent. Really it&#8217;s a matter of consumers (that is, people living in First World consumer cultures such as the United States) deciding: Well, what&#8217;s really important? And: What are we willing to sacrifice and fight for in order to get it?</p>

<p>There is no way I can answer a question like that for other people. However, I hope that by peeling away some of the layers that we protect ourselves with on this issue of &#8220;being immune to brands and marketing,&#8221; it&#8217;s possible that some readers might be more willing to deal with those questions in a way that&#8217;s a little more interesting than what, for instance, commercial persuasion pros have to offer.</p>

<p>We&#8217;ll see.</p>


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